That's the problem I had in my original group back east... all the people who knew stuff were burned out and the new people were totally clueless and looking for someone to show them what to do and how to play the game but nobody would do much of anything. I ended up driving a few hours north to the large active group and playing with them. and that actually spurred some of my original group to get active. It took me a while to get into the active groups around here, too... it seems like the people who want to do stuff get discouraged so they stop, but if ya bug em a little they'll do stuff. It'd be great for Guy and Bunky too, most groups have children's activities... perhaps you could coordinate with the children's activities person and arrange some stuff for your boys do to to burn off some of that marvellous excess energy... in all that spare time you have an your hands
